[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome to two Travel Dads podcast. Here we share our favorite destinations, travel tips, ideas for saving money, and stories from our adventures. Be sure to check out our show
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[00:00:23] Speaker B: I'm Chris.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: And today we're going to talk about visiting Maine, but specifically visiting Maine in wintertime because it seems like it would be kind of a crazy idea because it's up in the Northeast, right off the Atlantic Ocean, going to be windy and crazy, but it's actually kind of amazing.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: It's pretty. I mean, especially if you want, like a winter wonderland.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: Yeah. No, it's the perfect combo of winter Wonderland and Lighthouses. And we've got a couple different podcast episodes about Maine and specifically winter in Maine. So be sure to check out other recordings as well to get the full scoop. But today, what we're going to talk about is kind of what to expect and the experience of being. Okay, we live in Florida, where it's February and it's 85 degrees out.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: We don't get snow.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Yeah, we don't get snow.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: We moved here because we wanted to be away from the cold weather.
[00:01:16] Speaker A: Exactly. So going up to Maine, where winter, I mean, the other day it was nine degrees.
Being up there in winter for us is just kind of a crazy concept because it's such a different world than what we have every day.
But, yeah. So we're going to talk about the experience and what we expected, what it was actually like as well. As well.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: I don't know. We can talk about food because I think Maine's also known for some type of crustacean.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: We will talk about that a little bit, too.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: So anyways, everybody knows I like the food.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: I know.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: So I talk about the food.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: I know. So let's just start with, first off, that was your first trip to Maine ever?
[00:01:54] Speaker B: It was my first trip.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: So what did you expect of the state in general at that time of year? No, just in general. Were you expecting it to be as developed as it was? Were you expecting it to be all tiny little coastal everything, including PortlanD?
[00:02:09] Speaker B: Oh, no. So I expected to see lighthouses, which I did, and I saw several, and I expected to be smaller cities. What I didn't expect, though, was it reminded me a lot like home back in Washington. It was really still green, and you had some mountains, and it just gave this vibe of being back in Washington, which is kind of cool. But I will say for that time of year, I actually expected more snow. So I was slightly know because the kids were really looking forward to playing in the snow. And there was no fresh snow while we were there. Except for one day.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: We had that one day and there was a nice dusting. It was a dusting and it made it magical because the kids then got to walk out on our deck and there was fresh snow and that was thrilling. And snow in the. So, yeah, you're right. It's so much like the Pacific Northwest and specifically port towns and where you grew.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Or Lacana Peninsula with just water all around it and the beautiful rocky seashore.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I think that is an accurate assessment that it's very similar. And, you know, as far as weather goes, whether it's summer or spring or fall, I feel like Maine's weather is very similar to Washington State. The only big difference is when you get to winter and, yeah, they do get so much snow. And the week before we were there on this most recent visit, the big cold snap that swept across the US, when it hit Maine, it got to 40 below, which that is not something that happens in Washington state. So neither of us has ever experienced anything even remotely like that.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: And I'm glad we weren't there for it.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. I was ready to cancel our trip if it continued beyond that little three day period, but, yeah. So that's something hugely different about Maine is that it can get those absolutely bonkers drops in temperature. It's right there coming off the Arctic Circle.
[00:04:03] Speaker B: Yeah. It gets those Noreasters, it gets blizzards.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: It gets extreme weather, gets bomb cyclones.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Those are new as of what, like 2020?
[00:04:11] Speaker A: I don't know. It's a new weather phenomenon they chosen to name anyways, though.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: Weather. Fun, that's for sure.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Definitely. It surprised you, it sounds like. And then as far as the actual snow element of it, you're right. I was totally hoping we would have a lot more fresh snow. And I think that's actually what surprised me was that it's not like in winter. It is not just all the time covered in snow.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: No, I mean, there was snow, but it's that aged snow right where it snowed. And then it's kind of melted and it's got a hard crust on top. And it was still really cool. I mean, there were frozen ponds everywhere. So I think that was also pretty interesting. It reminded me of some of those really cool puzzles that you see that's like a winter wonderland with like a frozen pond or lake. So the kids thought that was pretty cool looking out and then seeing those frozen bodies of water.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Maine is like a big grandma Moses painting.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: So then that definitely. I think you captured what Maine's like in winter. Frozen ponds. That's frozen ponds, frozen inlets. Yeah. So even if there's not snow, you still got frozen stuff.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: But all the roads still completely navigable.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: That's where I was going next.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, you see plows, like, everywhere on the street. But also, I'm like, stay out of the way. It looks like they're much bigger than they are driving down the road. But they definitely understand how to maintain the roads, obviously. Right. During the winter. So it's pretty easy to drive around again.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: It's funny because growing up in Washington state and then going someplace that is meant for winter, like Maine, it's crazy how differently they handle it. Like, life goes on. You get a good freeze or a little bit of snow in Washington and Seattle, like, the world just shuts down. Nobody has snow.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: And Spokane manages it better than Seattle, I think.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Oh, I'm sure they do. But I have not been to Spokane in the snow, and I don't intend to.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: No. I just think they have as much as Maine. It's a little bit different.
[00:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah. But so it is kind of crazy because coming off of a big, huge Arctic blast, Maine was still fully functional.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: I was thankful, though, that our car had all wheel drive. So I think that's still important if you're traveling during that time of year and getting a rental car to make sure you've got something that's four wheel drive or all wheel drive, just in case.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: Especially because two of the places that we went, we went to quite a few different lighthouses. And two of them were at the end of a one to three mile dirt road.
[00:06:35] Speaker B: Gravel road.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Mud road.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: Mud road. Right. So that was the other thing.
[00:06:38] Speaker A: A hilly mud road.
[00:06:39] Speaker B: Hilly Mud Road. But is that there are actually a lot of dirt roads in Maine? Yeah, a lot of dirt roads. And I guess with the weather and the constant snow and snow melt and snow and freeze, it kind of ruins the roads a little bit. But it was super muddy. It was like we're in a mud soup road.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: Yeah. But, you know, to the most beautiful lighthouse, though. So though the Transportation Department manages and maintains it better than you might expect, which is delightful. It makes it so that visiting.
Visiting Maine and winter is not out of the question because they know what to do. So let's chat a little bit about food, also, because I know you like food. I love the whole point of traveling.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: I think there's a part of culture.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: No, I agree. I totally agree. And Maine has its own different sorts of food, I guess you could say, or things that they're known for.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: Oh, like Moxie. Because that was a fun discovery.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: Tell us about Moxie. What's moxie?
[00:07:39] Speaker B: I remember seeing it on, I think it was a Sunday morning episode or something, talking about Moxie. And it's a soda, but it was, gosh, created. I can't remember the year. Anyways, it's been around for a very long time, but it's definitely a main thing. I did air quotes. You can't see that, but it's definitely a main thing. And it was initially created as, like, a digestive.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: What is a digestive?
[00:08:01] Speaker B: It's something that just helps you digest your food.
You've got tummy problems. You might want to have a moxie, but their branding is super cool. Their logo, it comes in this orange can and it's got this old outline of this guy. It's, like blue and he's, like, passing you, like, this moxie. And it's a pretty cool vintage logo.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: But I remember actually trying to think of, like, I could place it somewhere. I couldn't think of what it was. And I remember being a kid and going to this place called Fruit Market. Oh, yeah, yeah. Over in Bothel in Washington State. And they always had this funny case of weird soda, like big Red and stuff like that. And I remember seeing Moxie there once and being like, what is that? Yeah, I never got it because I always had big red soda.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah, Big Red. That's funny. But, yeah, I guess it was created in 1876, and I kind of thought that it had ginger in it, but it wasn't ginger, it's something else. What was it called?
[00:09:03] Speaker A: Gingine or Ginger something. Yeah, we'll put it in the show notes.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: Yeah, put it in the show notes because it definitely had a unique flavor. I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it. I finished the whole can.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: It was kind of.
[00:09:15] Speaker B: And the kids also enjoyed it. So it was a little savory, but.
[00:09:20] Speaker A: Savory.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: I would buy it again.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: Good times. Yeah. So Moxie soda, that's definitely a main thing.
Oh, before I forget, Needhams.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: Oh, a Needham.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: Needham. That's another main thing.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: And you look at them, it's just like these big square chocolate candies. But I was like, what is a Needham? And we were at some farm market and I was talking to one of the ladies and I asked her what Anitam was. It's definitely a main thing, it's like coconut and potato starch that's kind of mixed together to create basically kind of like a mounds or a bounty, if you're familiar with a bounty. I love bounties are amazing.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: Bounties are mounds, but with milk chocolate instead of dark chocolate.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: So good.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: And you can only them in Canada, I think, unless you have them imported here.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: Needhams. They're delicious. But I was asking the lady, I was like, should I get this brand of Needhams or those ones that I see over there? And anyway, she's like, they all taste the same. Okay. But they were delicious.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: The texture.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: I think it's because they use the potato starch. I think they're gluten free.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: I can't confirm or deny.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I know they sound, but another means, like potato and coconut. But the way that they're done, it's delicious.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not about the potato, it's about the texture.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: It's like a silky, creamy coconut filling.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: It's a must try if you like coconut and milk chocolate.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: And I know they sound bizarre, but they're so good.
Since we're talking about Maine Foods, let's just talk about Maine Foods. Another thing that of course you're going to find in Maine is, and you didn't get to try these, but potato.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: Need them to make the donut, I guess.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: I don't know. But potato donuts are something else that you could easily find. And apple cider donuts, those are very Manish things. You can definitely get them in Portland and Bangor. But lobster, I know that's what you want to talk about.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Oh, the lobster is everywhere and extremely delicious. I wanted to try a lobster roll at every single place that we went to, but I think I had one while we were there and it was still delicious. But you can either get it with, they do it either with butter or you can get a mayonnaise based one. And I think I prefer the ones with a little bit of mayonnaise.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: So, yes, there's lots of different ways. It's funny because I actually am almost done with an article for our other site, Mainexplored.com, all about lobster rolls and the different varieties, how to make it, all that stuff. So somehow last week when we were in Maine, I ended up eating five different lobster.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: You got, you had the assortment, quite.
[00:11:59] Speaker A: A variety of lobster rolls, if they're on a menu. And also they're a little bit cheaper in winter, too, if they're on a menu. And you know they're going to be delicious and fresh. Why wouldn't you get them? In summertime, you will see lobster stands, lobster shacks, you might say, all along the road. And there, that's where you will find the most expensive lobster rolls, but also wonderfully fresh and delicious. In summertime, they are more expensive, you'd think. It's kind of funny because there's just so many tourists that are there and they're like, lobster, lobster, lobster. So all these cool lobster shacks, both on the side of the road and in the different marina areas, you'll see a lobster roll. 36 99. You're like, what, for a sandwich? Yeah.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: Expensive.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: I know it is. And I mean, they're good, but I don't think they're always 36 99 good.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: No, I think there's a lot of. Maine has a lot of other really delicious there, too. I mean, obviously they're on the water, so tons of seafood options, too. But you have to try lobster roll.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: So my favorite of the different ways is it's also kind of a mayonnaise one. I had two of them last week.
It was a lobster roll with a lemonali.
So delicious. Because lobster itself is just so.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: I just prefer to get it on its own, too.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but it is so rich on its own that if you can get one that has the delicious lemonali, that is my top pick. And you can also always just squeeze a little lemon on it.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: I think that's like a fire one.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So good. So if you are in the market thinking lobster rolls for lunch, dinner, whatever, there's a couple of different ways you can get the main style, which is just the classic. I can't speak the classic lobster roll. And it's just chunks of fresh lobster and maybe a little bit of mayonnaise and it's like a toasted hot dog.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: There's, I think there are specific lobster roll buns.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Well, there are, but also sometimes just get them on like a big fat hot dog bun. And then there's one that they call Connecticut style, but it's all over Maine. And it's just the butter version where it's just melted butter. It's delicious. And that's the one that's so rich. Goodness gracious. And then spicy is also good. And I had one that had a little bit of Sriracha mixed in.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: I like it. Yeah.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, that was so good. So try them everywhere. I think you will find that every place makes them a little differently. ANd some places will really chop up the lobster. So it's really more like a chicken salad.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah, no, thanks. I like the ones that have nice, big, huge chunks of lobster.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Because literally there are some lobster shacks that will make a lobster roll that is just like. They crack the lobster, throw it in a bowl, put a blob of mayonnaise on it, mix it up just a tiny bit, throw it on a piece of bread.
[00:14:56] Speaker B: Kind of crazy simple.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Delicious.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: Simple and delicious. But I think the way I prefer to have lobster is the steamed lobster.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: Just it. Gosh, we should actually just record a whole episode about lobster stuff. That's just great, because if you are visiting Maine and getting a vacation rental, then you'll have a full kitchen, typically. And if it's a Maine vacation home, it probably has a huge lobster pot, I'm sure. And when in Maine, you can actually get fresh, local lobster for a lot less expensive than everywhere else in the world. So it's worth it. Boil them yourself, crack them yourself, dip them in butter if you want to.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: And you could share it or you could just eat it yourself.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: You could share it or just eat it yourself.
Good times. Anyways, another really delicious lobster thing that you can do, I've never actually seen it on a menu, but it's something that our friends do and we've made is seafood packets with lobster in them.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: Yeah, well, and we know it's a thing because our friend's from Maine. He grew up outside of.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: And so where, I guess real Mainers.
[00:16:03] Speaker B: Don'T actually eat lobster, he says, but he makes it for other people, which.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Is funny, because then when you say that out loud to a Mainer, they're like, yeah, we do. I don't know if it's just that there's a conspiracy.
I don't know. Anyways, though. But seafood packets are this wonderful little local thing that you can make. Do it with friends because you end up having to make a lot. And you cook your lobster, or you buy your lobster and you put chunks of that and you cut up some corn on the cob and potatoes and Dewey sausage if you want, and some shrimps if you want. And Old Bay. A lot of Old bay.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: That's part of it. And you definitely make sure we'll go look for recipe. But you cook your lobster first and prep all of your lobster first, and then that goes in with the seafood packets. And, yeah, you just toss all of that stuff. You put it all into a big bowl and you just kind of toss it around, throw in some butter chives. Got your old bay with all of those other ingredients and then start distributing it or separating it all into own individual little foil packets. Packets. Yeah, foil packets.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: The Reynolds wrap ladies from the commercials would love this recipe because literally you're just taking all the best deliciousness of what Maine can give you and put in a packet. And then you put it in the oven or on the barbecue? On the barbecue. And it doesn't take very long.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: No, just let it go down. I mean, it's seafood, right? So the big thing is making sure the potatoes, some of the potatoes and the corn, so that you're really just kind of finishing it off on the grill. But everything just kind of steams and gets delicious in there. Obviously, you have butter and add some.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Chunks of fish, too. That was also.
[00:17:47] Speaker B: Chunks of fish are good. Haddock, nice. Another local favorite. I'm like, what's Haddock? We didn't have Haddock growing up in the Pacific Northwest, but it's their version of coD, which is delicious.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: That's a great segue to talking about haddock, too.
[00:18:00] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: I've eaten so much Haddock in Maine. Haddock wraps, haddock burgers, fried Haddock. You'll see it on menus. It's like here in Florida, every place has, like, blackened mahi or fried mahi. Up in Maine, everything is Haddock. Haddock, Haddock. And it's so good. And smoked Haddock, too.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Haven't had that. I tried it, though. Maybe like another fish dip, because fish dips over here on the East coast.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: Everybody loves fish dip. That's true. But, yeah. So that's another wonderful seafood thing to seek out when you're in Maine is Haddock. And that's not even seasonal. That's a year round sort of thing. It's a Maine staple. So if you can't find lobster, find haddock, and you will absolutely love it. Another main deliciousness that we have to talk about is whoopee pies.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Whoopee pies. I've seen them before, but not as frequent as I did in Maine. It was kind of interesting. So is that also a main thing?
[00:18:52] Speaker A: I think the specific way that they are made in Maine is different because, I mean, I've had whoopee pies in California and Washington and Alabama and Wisconsin. Like, I've had them all over the place. But I think that the main style of doing it, it's almost like a cupcake top. That's like the texture of the dessert bread product, the cake.
And then I've had it with a couple different fillings. So there's the type that is, like, lard, where it's, like, whipped up or, like, Crisco style whipped up into this fluffy cream. Cream, and then put in between two, basically cupcake tops. And there you go. Basic whoopee pie. And I think the most common one that I've seen everywhere has been chocolate with the vanilla center.
[00:19:39] Speaker B: I think that's the standard.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And then I've also had them with buttercream, which is delicious. And I think that is just so good. And then what's your thoughts on the marshmallow fluff style filled one?
[00:19:52] Speaker B: It was just shocking because I wasn't experiencing to bite into it and then have that texture.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: You weren't experiencing to bite into it? Expecting to bite into it.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Did I say experiencing?
[00:20:01] Speaker A: It was a weird whoopee pie experience for you?
[00:20:03] Speaker B: It was a weird whoopee pie experience. Was not expecting to bite into it and have some resistance.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Resistance. That's a good way to put. Yeah, because with some of them, the cake portion is so soft.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: It's soft. And then you get into the creamy part, and so there's no resistance. It's just, like, a smooth experience. But that other one that I had, that had the marshmallow inside, it threw me off. Yeah.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: So each baker has their own jam, their own way that they do it. So I think that of all of the ones we had, so I think, gosh, on this last trip, we, in total, we purchased nine Whoopi pies.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: Crazy.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: Well, they're good and delicious and easy to eat and take with you.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially the small ones.
[00:20:46] Speaker A: Yeah. I think my favorite, though, was definitely the maple whoopee pie. The maple from Wicked Whoopee's in Freeport.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: That was the best. And that was, like, the last one that we ate. We didn't eat until we actually got home.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: I know. We brought it home and discovered that it was the best.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Had I known, I would have grabbed a couple more.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: It would have gotten a whole box of them. Oh, well, next time.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: And then I'd say the second, though, was that orange creamsicle one that you had.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: You liked that?
[00:21:10] Speaker B: That was good. And I wasn't expecting to because it was bright orange, but it reminded me of what I used to eat as a kid. The orange hostess cupcakes is what it reminded me of, and I loved those as a kid.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's funny. So there's a spot here maybe an hour away out by Silver Springs State park in Central Florida or in the Ocala area. And they've got a huge sign that says Whoopee Pies.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: We've never been there.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: We've never been. And I think we should go and see what the Florida version of a whoopee pie is like. I bet it's interesting.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: I'm sure it is.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: I bet it's key line. Good times.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: Let's hope.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Anyways, though, I wanted to talk a little bit about blueberries. I know that sounds.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: Blueberries.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: We saw a ton of blueberry fields. I didn't eat any blueberries while we were there.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: I know.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Did you?
[00:21:55] Speaker A: Yes. And you actually did, too.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Where was it?
[00:21:59] Speaker A: I got those weird chocolate blueberries.
[00:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, we got the chocolate cover blueberries that made the car smell funny.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: I know, but they were actually kind of delicious and I still have more of them. But in the summertime, when you're in Maine, there are places where you can go and literally wild blueberries are everywhere. It's kind of amazing. And you can just go up there and act like you're a bear and walk through the fields and pick blueberries. So there's this one spot in Camden that is just kind of beautiful and amazing. And you can hike up, and as you hike up the mountain, when you get to the top, it is just blueberry fields and people eating them.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: That's cool.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: I know. So as you're driving, especially in southern Maine, you'll find lots and lots of different blueberry farms. And you pick opportunities I bet you.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: Can probably find, like a ton of at that time. Like blueberry muffins, maybe some homemade blueberry jam or some type of fruit spread.
[00:23:00] Speaker A: I bet you can get a blueberry potato donut, probably, or a whoopee pie. Oh, I think a blueberry whoopee pie would be delicious. Anyways, I just wanted to call that out as something to look for when you're in Maine, because blueberries are so copious that in summer months, specifically, everything has blueberry goodness. That's kind of everything you need to know about visiting winter in Maine or visiting winter in Maine. Why do I keep saying it?
[00:23:26] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: Visiting Maine in winter. That's what we're talking about.
Visiting Maine in winter. It's pretty amazing. There's so fewer people that are.
Gosh, it's just great. It's kind of a tourist dream because you can go to famous sites like famous lighthouses, like the Portland Head. Or we enjoyed walking out to the Rockland breakwater, and there's nobody out.
Just.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: No, because it was like negative two degrees, wind chill. It was freezing cold.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: So it's cold but beautiful and there.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: Aren'T people and there was nobody there.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: So that's my purpose there is just saying that visit Maine in the off season. You will be able to eat your way around the state without crowds. Have fun. It's cold. Pack appropriately.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, just layers. Have some layers.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: And then stay tuned because we are going to get into places to stay and talk about our road trip through Portland and Mid Coast Maine in the wintertime. And yeah, we've got lots to share. So, so stay tuned. Check back in and don't forget to subscribe if you're not already. And we'll talk to you later.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: All right. Talk to you later.
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